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I think I agree with Siren (and UmbrellaFish) here--it's not simply about Tinkerbell herself (she is fictional, after all), but about everything that encompasses her creation and history. Recognizing her is simply stating that the character is an American icon and will most likely be remembered long after any human 'celebrity' is dead. Besides, even if you believe this is a superficial reward and ignores all the work of the people who really made her, the same could be argued for anyone else who gets a star. Why don't we just go ahead and list the schools that educated all the famous actresses/actors who ever received the 'honor' of a star, including who truly inspired them? I mean, does it really matter who helped make them who they are? It's about "fame" and fame, if you hadn't noticed, is superficial and many times undeserved.
But, then, that would be my opinion if the "Walk of Fame" actually meant something to me.
But, then, that would be my opinion if the "Walk of Fame" actually meant something to me.
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I do feel it is much ado about nothing. Thank you Divinity. And I feel the same way about the Walk of Fame. In its hey-day, it meant something, it was an honor. These days, you don't have to be a great actor to get one...less than mediocre will still get you a star.
I am sure some actor is having a hissy fit Tinkerbell gets a star but they haven't got one yet.
I am sure some actor is having a hissy fit Tinkerbell gets a star but they haven't got one yet.
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But that's the point. It's not an honour at all. The Hollywood walk of fame thing is a complete crock of S***.UmbrellaFish wrote:Although, I must say I don't believe the award is that great of an honor, it's still an honor.
People aren't *awarded* a star. You are aware that actors/ studios /estates have to pay for it?
Johnny Depp wasn't given a star to honour him. The only reason Johnny Depp has star is because either he or his management or a studio said "Hey let's buy Depp a star".
The same with Donald Duck. Do you think anyway went "Hey let's honor Donald Duck with a star" ?
No because in reality what happens is Disney thinks to themselves, hmm let's splash some cash and get a bit of publicity.
This is exactly the same. No one is "honoring" Tinkerbell. All that has happened is that some genius at Disney thought "Hey we've got a crappy direct to video film about Tinkerbell being released later this year. So why dont we pay to have Tinkerbell put on the Hollywood Walk of Fame".
So I'm sorry, but all this talk of "honoring" Tink is pure crap, in reality all that is happening is that Disney is pulling a publicity stunt to create buzz and push their cgi s***.
And anyone seriously suggesting that any of the Disney Princesses should be put on there seriously needs to get a f***ing grip on reality.
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Also, ichabod, if you think this whole thing is a crock, why reply that Tinker Bell shouldn't get a star in the first place? And I want to mention that I think that before a character gets an award, then need to deserve it. They need to be an icon, and I don't honestly believe any of the Disney Princesses have achieved icon status, including Snow White. But Tinker Bell certainly has. I feel the character deserves it as does Mickey Mouse Donald Duck, Buggs Bunny, Kermit the Frog, and others.
The first quote seems to prove that to recieve an award you must be nominated first. Surely the company that manages the actor/character sends in nominations, but then a committee reviews the nominees and picks the ones who deserve the honor. So not just anyone can get in.Nominations are submitted annually by May 31, and the Walk of Fame committee meets the following month to pick the next year's group of honorees.
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This quote says that the fee is used to buy security for the ceremony and other things like that. So, yes you do have to pay a fee to get a star, but first you must go through a selection process. I'm not saying Disney didn't find this as a perfect opportunity to promote the Tinker Bell movies, but it's still an honor she got picked!In order for a person to get a star on the Walk of Fame, he or she must agree to attend a presentation ceremony within five years of selection, and a $25,000 fee must be paid to the Trust for costs such as security at the star ceremony; a 2003 FOX News story noted that the fee is typically paid by sponsors such as film studios and record companies, as part of the publicity for a release with which the honoree is involved.[citation needed] On other occasions, the fee is paid by a fan club or the nominating person or organization.
Also, ichabod, if you think this whole thing is a crock, why reply that Tinker Bell shouldn't get a star in the first place? And I want to mention that I think that before a character gets an award, then need to deserve it. They need to be an icon, and I don't honestly believe any of the Disney Princesses have achieved icon status, including Snow White. But Tinker Bell certainly has. I feel the character deserves it as does Mickey Mouse Donald Duck, Buggs Bunny, Kermit the Frog, and others.
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Your quotes dont justify anything, in fact all they do is prove even more what a mutual appreciation society Hollywood is.
Oh precisely where is your logic that Tink deserves a star but a princess doesn't?
I suppose Tink deserves this because of all her charity work and helping with humanitarian aid. And the changes and impacts shes made upon the world and society. We do all know how outspoken Tink is on the third world food crisis and human right issues. Tink and Susan Sarandon - sisters is arms fighting for the greater good. Oh yeah she really *deserves* it
Oh I do apologise! I wasnt aware this was the "please post only if you are in support of this decision" thread.UmbrellaFish wrote:Also, ichabod, if you think this whole thing is a crock, why reply that Tinker Bell shouldn't get a star in the first place?
Oh precisely where is your logic that Tink deserves a star but a princess doesn't?
I suppose Tink deserves this because of all her charity work and helping with humanitarian aid. And the changes and impacts shes made upon the world and society. We do all know how outspoken Tink is on the third world food crisis and human right issues. Tink and Susan Sarandon - sisters is arms fighting for the greater good. Oh yeah she really *deserves* it
ichabod wrote:I suppose Tink deserves this because of all her charity work and helping with humanitarian aid. And the changes and impacts shes made upon the world and society. We do all know how outspoken Tink is on the third world food crisis and human right issues. Tink and Susan Sarandon - sisters is arms fighting for the greater good. Oh yeah she really *deserves* it
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Oh good God, you're starting to get silly...
Oh, I don't know. Tink's been around fifty years, she's been in front of nearly every Disney DVD presentation, she's opens "The Wonderful World of Disney", and even the very fact people parody Disney's Tinker Bell more than other Disney characters proves she's more iconic than Ariel, Jasmine, or Cinderella! And coming from a hard-core TLM fan, that means a lot.
Oh really? You said they weren't "awarded" and honored with a star. They are! They don't buy the stars! They nominate and then pay for the ceremony! Not for the star! So it is an honor, they are recognized by a committee.Your quotes dont justify anything, in fact all they do is prove even more what a mutual appreciation society Hollywood is.
It's not that, ichabod. It's that you seem to be contradicting yourself. First you say she doesn't deserve a star, now you say the whole thing is a crock and anyone can get one.Oh I do apologise! I wasnt aware this was the "please post only if you are in support of this decision" thread.
Oh precisely where is your logic that Tink deserves a star but a princess doesn't?
Oh, I don't know. Tink's been around fifty years, she's been in front of nearly every Disney DVD presentation, she's opens "The Wonderful World of Disney", and even the very fact people parody Disney's Tinker Bell more than other Disney characters proves she's more iconic than Ariel, Jasmine, or Cinderella! And coming from a hard-core TLM fan, that means a lot.
You're beginning to confuse being a human rights supporter and being a Hollywood legend. They're different, you know.I suppose Tink deserves this because of all her charity work and helping with humanitarian aid. And the changes and impacts shes made upon the world and society. We do all know how outspoken Tink is on the third world food crisis and human right issues. Tink and Susan Sarandon - sisters is arms fighting for the greater good.
And yeah, in my personal opinion she does.Oh yeah she really *deserves* it
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I'm not contradicting myself at all. Yes I think the whole thing is pointless, considering the money changing hands. It's like the flipping Oscars. But if they are insistent upon going ahead with it, they should at least chose somebody who has contributed to Disney history and really has been a force in the film industry.UmbrellaFish wrote:It's not that, ichabod. It's that you seem to be contradicting yourself. First you say she doesn't deserve a star, now you say the whole thing is a crock and anyone can get one.
I mean when you think of the unnamed people like Ollie Johnstone, Milt Kahl, Woolie Reitherman, Mary Blair, Joe Grant to name just a handful. People who have created characters, directed films, contributed that are still being watched today and inspiring the people of tomorrow.
But because these aren't "names" which people would recognise, Disney thinks "screw it, we'll nominate Tink instead".
What a slap in the face that is. Just shows the money-mad, marketting crazed bodies that run Disney these days for what they are. And shows what complete disregard and lack of respect Disney have for the people who truly should be remembered. But that's nothing new. That's Disney all over these days isnt it, slap some crappy game on DVD rather than make any decent bonus features, slap Mickey Mouse's face on everything from a dog bowl to a leaf blower and then try and pretend that Tinkerbell is an icon of cinema.
Pure bollocks.
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It's not that I don't whole-heartedly agree with you that before a fictional character is awarded a star on The Hollywood Walk of Fame a real person should be. But I do feel Tinker Bell deserves it since they're giving it to her anyway. I mean, beggers can't be choosers.ichabod wrote: I'm not contradicting myself at all. Yes I think the whole thing is pointless, considering the money changing hands. It's like the flipping Oscars. But if they are insistent upon going ahead with it, they should at least chose somebody who has contributed to Disney history and really has been a force in the film industry.
I mean when you think of the unnamed people like Ollie Johnstone, Milt Kahl, Woolie Reitherman, Mary Blair, Joe Grant to name just a handful. People who have created characters, directed films, contributed that are still being watched today and inspiring the people of tomorrow.
But because these aren't "names" which people would recognise, Disney thinks "screw it, we'll nominate Tink instead".
What a slap in the face that is. Just shows the money-mad, marketting crazed bodies that run Disney these days for what they are. And shows what complete disregard and lack of respect Disney have for the people who truly should be remembered. But that's nothing new. That's Disney all over these days isnt it, slap some crappy game on DVD rather than make any decent bonus features, slap Mickey Mouse's face on everything from a dog bowl to a leaf blower and then try and pretend that Tinkerbell is an icon of cinema.
Pure bollocks.
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You know which one is hers, don't you?
Second star to the right, and... Well, you know the rest.
Of course, it is kind of hard to find. The whole thing is only an inch square.
(the above would have been funnier if it was Grauman's Chinese Theatre, where they put footprints in concrete... Tinkerbell would have TINY little feet!)
Second star to the right, and... Well, you know the rest.
Of course, it is kind of hard to find. The whole thing is only an inch square.
(the above would have been funnier if it was Grauman's Chinese Theatre, where they put footprints in concrete... Tinkerbell would have TINY little feet!)
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