Really, what is with Disney thinking that CG is better than hand-drawn?! CG wouldn't even exist if it weren't for hand-drawn, let alone Disney! They INVENTED hand-drawn animation, said they were going to bring it back and they're giving the medium/us a big fat middle finger in the form of CG!
Man,there is more drama on this thread than a soap opera.
But seriously we don't know why Disney makes these changes because we are not them.However,we should also take in the blessings that is coming our way.
jazzflower92 wrote:Man,there is more drama on this thread than a soap opera.
But seriously we don't know why Disney makes these changes because we are not them.However,we should also take in the blessings that is coming our way.
DisneyJedi wrote:Really, what is with Disney thinking that CG is better than hand-drawn?! CG wouldn't even exist if it weren't for hand-drawn, let alone Disney! They INVENTED hand-drawn animation, said they were going to bring it back and they're giving the medium/us a big fat middle finger in the form of CG!
No they didn't.
This just show how much of a raging nostalgic Disney fanboy you are when you don't even know your facts right.
DisneyJedi wrote:Really, what is with Disney thinking that CG is better than hand-drawn?! CG wouldn't even exist if it weren't for hand-drawn, let alone Disney! They INVENTED hand-drawn animation, said they were going to bring it back and they're giving the medium/us a big fat middle finger in the form of CG!
No they didn't.
This just show how much of a raging nostalgic Disney fanboy you are when you don't even know your facts right.
PatrickvD wrote:
You love pissing DJ off don't you?
Screw you, Aurora! You're just a troll like everyone else on this site and I'm pretty damn sick of it! Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was YOUR fault that Disney stopped doing hand-drawn animated films. Everything going wrong at Disney is your fault! It's YOUR fault my grandmother died of breast cancer back in June because you're such a dick to me!
And by the way, if it even weren't for Disney, hand-drawn animation would not even have become what it is!
DisneyJedi wrote:Screw you, Aurora! You're just a troll like everyone else on this site and I'm pretty damn sick of it! Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was YOUR fault that Disney stopped doing hand-drawn animated films. Everything going wrong at Disney is your fault! It's YOUR fault my grandmother died of breast cancer back in June because you're such a dick to me!
And by the way, if it even weren't for Disney, hand-drawn animation would not even have become what it is!
DisneyJedi wrote:Screw you, Aurora! You're just a troll like everyone else on this site and I'm pretty damn sick of it! Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was YOUR fault that Disney stopped doing hand-drawn animated films. Everything going wrong at Disney is your fault! It's YOUR fault my grandmother died of breast cancer back in June because you're such a dick to me!
And by the way, if it even weren't for Disney, hand-drawn animation would not even have become what it is!
jazzflower92 wrote:
Hey,calm down there is no need to be nasty.
I'm sorry. You don't realize how long Aurora has been a jerkwad to me, do you? Any chance he's gotten, he has found a way to piss me off and I'm finally telling him what I think of him in the form of words I've wanted to say but never had the courage to do so.
jazzflower92 wrote:
Hey,calm down there is no need to be nasty.
I'm sorry. You don't realize how long Aurora has been a jerkwad to me, do you? Any chance he's gotten, he has found a way to piss me off and I'm finally telling him what I think of him in the form of words I've wanted to say but never had the courage to do so.
You do know that what you said could possibly get you banned from the forums.
I. Don't.CARE!!! I'm fed up with Aurora and his accomplices always finding ways to get under my skin and I've pretty much had it him in general! If anyone should be banned, it should be him! All he does when he's around is troll me and piss me off to the point where I have to fly in a rage to get him to shut up!!
Super Aurora, you needn't pepper your corrections with personal insults. In the time it took you to write that putdown, you probably could have written a sentence mentioning some of animation's pioneers and encouraged him to research further.
DisneyJedi, your response is equally out of line. I can tell it was written out of frustration and understandably so, but it still constitutes a personal attack which violates the one main ground rule we have here.
There is just no reason for hostility to take over any thread, much less one about an upcoming movie. Please keep the discussion civil. It makes the forum so much more enjoyable for everyone who visits it. Thank you.
"Fifteen years from now, when people are talking about 3-D, they will talk about the business before 'Monsters vs. Aliens' and the business after 'Monsters vs. Aliens.' It's the line in the sand." - Greg Foster, IMAX chairman and president
DisneyJedi wrote:Screw you, Aurora! You're just a troll like everyone else on this site and I'm pretty damn sick of it! Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was YOUR fault that Disney stopped doing hand-drawn animated films. Everything going wrong at Disney is your fault! It's YOUR fault my grandmother died of breast cancer back in June because you're such a dick to me!
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DisneyJedi wrote:Honestly, I'd like to see them do a Disney-style crossover of The Wizard of Oz, casting Disney characters in the roles of the WoO characters. You know, kind of in the spirit of Mickey's Christmas Carol or The Prince and the Pauper.
Here, this is the cast of Disney characters I envision in the roles. Of course, some of them aren't my own ideas:
Alice (Alice in Wonderland) as Dorothy
Patch (101 Dalmatians), Bolt or any other Disney dog as Toto
Pinocchio as the Scarecrow
B.E.N. (Treasure Planet) as the Tin Woodsman
Louis the Alligator as the Cowardly Lion (Alligator)
Maleficent as the Wicked Witch of the West
Mama Odie as the Good Witch of the North
Mary Poppins or the Blue Fairy (Pinocchio) as Glinda the Good Witch of the South
Mickey Mouse as the Wizard of Oz
A little commentary on the cast and story:
- Alice seems right for the role of Dorothy because both wish to visit a world other than their own and get more than they wished for.
- I could have said Simba as the Lion, but Simba doesn't really scream 'cowardly'. If you watch The Princess and the Frog, you'd understand since Louis is a bit of a chicken.
- Just because the witch of the west is wicked doesn't mean she HAS to be ugly. Some might tend to disagree.
- Lastly, this would be more following the book (loosely if optional) than the 1939 movie. You know, kind of like how the West End/Broadway productions of Mary Poppins are more close to the books than the 1964 Disney film.
This would be cool. I'd want the Blue Fairy to play the GWofS and Jock from Lady and the Tramp to play Toto.
Sotiris wrote:Her design did not translate as well in CG as with other, more caricatured characters. There are shots in the film where she looks weird and off-model. Perhaps it's because of her big eyes.
+1.
People complain all the time about Ariel and Belle being off-model, but I swear I saw at least three different Rapunzels in Tangled. Eyes are definitely a huge part of the problem, but also her entire head, because it seems disproportionate to the rest of her body.
...both of you know it's impossible for her to ever be off-model when they just keep moving the same model, right?
I think she looked great in CGI. But generally I think ALL of their eyes needed to be smaller and more realistic. Actually just in general everything could have been a bit more realistic but they strayed farther away from that than normal because they wanted to avoid Uncanny Valley but I think they went tooo far away.
Disney Duster wrote:...both of you know it's impossible for her to ever be off-model when they just keep moving the same model, right?
True, but that doesn't stop her from appearing to be off-model depending on the pose and especially the camera angles; the proportions indeed feel a little off at times.
Disney Duster wrote:...both of you know it's impossible for her to ever be off-model when they just keep moving the same model, right?
True, but that doesn't stop her from appearing to be off-model depending on the pose and especially the camera angles; the proportions indeed feel a little off at times.
DisneyJedi wrote:Honestly, I'd like to see them do a Disney-style crossover of The Wizard of Oz, casting Disney characters in the roles of the WoO characters. You know, kind of in the spirit of Mickey's Christmas Carol or The Prince and the Pauper.
Here, this is the cast of Disney characters I envision in the roles. Of course, some of them aren't my own ideas:
Alice (Alice in Wonderland) as Dorothy
Patch (101 Dalmatians), Bolt or any other Disney dog as Toto
Pinocchio as the Scarecrow
B.E.N. (Treasure Planet) as the Tin Woodsman
Louis the Alligator as the Cowardly Lion (Alligator)
Maleficent as the Wicked Witch of the West
Mama Odie as the Good Witch of the North
Mary Poppins or the Blue Fairy (Pinocchio) as Glinda the Good Witch of the South
Mickey Mouse as the Wizard of Oz
A little commentary on the cast and story:
- Alice seems right for the role of Dorothy because both wish to visit a world other than their own and get more than they wished for.
- I could have said Simba as the Lion, but Simba doesn't really scream 'cowardly'. If you watch The Princess and the Frog, you'd understand since Louis is a bit of a chicken.
- Just because the witch of the west is wicked doesn't mean she HAS to be ugly. Some might tend to disagree.
- Lastly, this would be more following the book (loosely if optional) than the 1939 movie. You know, kind of like how the West End/Broadway productions of Mary Poppins are more close to the books than the 1964 Disney film.
This would be cool. I'd want the Blue Fairy to play the GWofS and Jock from Lady and the Tramp to play Toto.
Yeah, that would be so cute. Perfect casting. Jock would defientely be Toto.
